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patrick
Anyone out there looking at the 2500? Since it is just a sped up 2100+, I'm curious if its worth it?

The clear toner and RGB toners would be nice to add, but the subtrate issues and color quality are concerns.

Also, does anyone have any input on how much maintenence is truely required to keep the 2100+/2500 running?

Also, what are your impressions of the RIP that Kodak provides? Does it process the files fast and with consistent results?
NexpressOp
QUOTE(patrick @ Oct 23 2005, 11:50 AM) [snapback]63[/snapback]

Anyone out there looking at the 2500? Since it is just a sped up 2100+, I'm curious if its worth it?

The clear toner and RGB toners would be nice to add, but the subtrate issues and color quality are concerns.

Also, does anyone have any input on how much maintenence is truely required to keep the 2100+/2500 running?

Also, what are your impressions of the RIP that Kodak provides? Does it process the files fast and with consistent results?


Hello all,

I've been running a Nexpress 2100 for a year now, and our operation has put out 6,000,000 A4 images on our Nexpress in the first 11 months since installation was completed. We have the 5th module (clear and Red stations), but now just use the clear station for coating, although we dont have the Nexglosser. The CMYK build reproduced our house color accurately, so there was no need to use the 5th color to enhance the spot color.

Substrates? While I cant be sure, I'd say the Nexpress has the largest catalog of "qualified" substrates in the business, qualified meaning the stock has been submitted to Kodak to be tested for compatibility, and then a script produced with the optimum settings for best results on the machine. However, you can run other stocks, and have the ability in the DFE to produce your own substrate scripts for those stocks. however digital stocks do produce the best results, and climate and humidity control in the environment where the stock is stored is critical. This is the case with any stock that is run through any type of digital color equipment.

Color quality? Reproduction of 4 color photos are terrific in my opinion, but printing with large areas of screens can be problematic. A lot depends on the design of the piece, and I think there is a design guide for designing for the Nexpress. The "busier" the piece, the better, IMHO. This could be discussed at much greater length, I guess.

Maintenance? At first, the maintenance requirements seem like a lot, but you will quickly learn to do them, and depending on your schedule and workflow, will know what really needs to be done, and when. All of the routine maintenance tasks are easily completed by the operator, and even some of the more complicated Field Engineer repairs can be done by an experienced operator.

The RIP? Depends on how much variable data printing you want to do, and how complicated the files or the number of VDP records. You can add two secondary nodes to boost the RIP on this machine, if needed, I'm not sure about the next generation. We've never had a problem with ours, but we have found out it helps to split large output VDP files into smaller ones. Ordinary jobs, depending on how well the PDF was produced and the size , will rip in just a few seconds on our machine.

I like the fact the new Nexpress generation will handle a larger paper size. If it was my machine, I would run the max sheet size on everything, it is easier on the ORC's. (Operator Replaceable Components, such as Imaging cylinders, Blanket cylinders, Fuser rollers, etc.), resulting in longer life, more productivity, and reduced cost.

Hope this is some help,

Tom

patrick
Thanks for the information... Lots of good points...

Also, glad to see some new faces here, enjoy the site and post your comments, thoughts and questions...
rugby148
Wow! Lots of great information. You seem to be very familiar with the nexpress. I must say, from what I have seen, everything you said seems very accurate.

My experience and research has still left me concerned about variable print. I work with some rather complex variable applications, usaully hand programmed in VIPP. I don't know about Kodak's approach on variable, they have had some troubles answer many of my questions.

Thanks for the insite and welcome to the forums!
deltaE
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My experience and research has still left me concerned about variable print. I work with some rather complex variable applications, usaully hand programmed in VIPP. I don't know about Kodak's approach on variable, they have had some troubles answer many of my questions.


Hello rubgy148!

What kind of question wheren't they able to answer?
The NexStation can consume the open industry standard PPML/VDX (of course EPS, PostScript and PDF too).

So there is no need for 'digital press manufacturer based' VDP tools. Just a tool which can output PPML/VDX.

Cheers,
deltaE
patrick
We've found that moving our VIPP specific work to VDX using FusionPro has been relatively painless. Sure there are differences, but I really like the pdf style of VDX and previewing imposition and VI at the pdf level or rip level.

FusionPro will get better and better... I'm anxious to dive into hand coding VDX at some point, but right now, FusionPro seems to do everything I need it to do.
rugby148
patrick is more pleased with the vdx with fusion pro than i am. though it meets the needs of everything we have in production, it lacks the capabilities of numerous apps i had previously put into production as vipp applications.

all in all for most everyday variable vdx through a tool like fusion pro is solid, simple and powerful.
deltaE
rugby148,

my question still remains:

What kind of questions wheren't they able to answer?

Cheers,
deltaE
rugby148
QUOTE(deltaE @ Jul 12 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]440[/snapback]

rugby148,

my question still remains:

What kind of questions wheren't they able to answer?

Cheers,
deltaE


I will try to answer your question as a new thread under variable.
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