We have a Igen3 with Creo DFE and from the day I started we have been using vps files. in my journeys of reading we decided to try VIPP files. with vps files with we place the artwork in the high res folder and process the vps file through a virtual printer folder. With the vipp files the rendering seems to create two SEG files which I believe is artwork for both sides and a dbf ( data base file ). I tried processing this like a vps file ( high res folder and virtual printer folder ) but the job failed in que. I placed it in the spoolstore and manual the imposition as needed and it still failed. So my question is how do I process a vipp file?

Thanks,

Mike

What authoring tool are you using?

Are you hand coding the VIPP?

VIPP and VPS are similar, but not even close in how they handle external file references. Creo VPS support has hooks for the hires folders, with VIPP you would need to have file system paths to the image resources in your DBM.

What authoring tool are you using? I believe the answer is XMPie - Indesign

Are you hand coding the VIPP? No

VIPP and VPS are similar, but not even close in how they handle external file references. Creo VPS support has hooks for the hires folders, with VIPP you would need to have file system paths to the image resources in your DBM.

Hi,

I'm not sure what you’re using to create these files. I’ve never heard of a SEG file? but we have to do everything around here manually (sigh...) so I don’t have any tools to create these files for me. If you’re using something like Xmpie it may be different for you. VIPP only accepts JPG, TIFF and EPS files.

The great thing about VIPP is that it can RIP files really fast. That’s why we use it. The bad side of VIPP is it’s cumbersome to set jobs up. Once you get the hang of it though, it gets easier. You can create a little library of DBM's that you can use and alter as needed.

When I set up a job, I create a project folder, and in that folder I place the data (.dbf, but it's really just a flat file), the artwork (EPS, JPG or TIFF), and of course the DBM file which calls in the front and back artwork, positions the variable data, assigns fonts, artwork placement, page size etc.

Once all of those elements are ready, I import the job through Creo. I Choose Import, go to my project directory, choose the .dbf file, and the virtual printer that is appropriate for the job. The job should start to rip. If it bombs it could be one of a hundred different things, and the error messages are very cryptic. Once you print out your samples, you can return to the DBM, (which you can just open with notepad), make your adjustments, corrections, etc.

I hope that helps?
-Heidi

The .seg files are the 2 layers, static and variable that XMPIE outputs.

Since that is all your hires elements, there is nothing to cache.

What Heidi recommends is doing VIPP the projects method, which is hand coding. Very effective once you learn VIPP language.

Since you have a Creo, have you tried Optimized PS as an output format? The Creo should rip that amazingly fast.

If you want reusable VI hi-res, you should stick with VPS. Even with VIPP the Creo can not cache VI ripped elements across jobs only VPS can do that.

Thanks

Optimized PS - We will try this and importing the vipp files. Yes we use XMPie to create our files but just for learning purposes I would like to learn vipp language. Were would I seek more info on learning the language?

You guys have been a great help

Thank you


Mike

Contact your local Xerox analyst or sales person. They can sell you consulting services or training programs for VIPP.

Xerox used to have a website, vippcommands.com but that was taken down, it used to contain the VIPP commands and information about VIPP.

http://vippsupport.xerox.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/7371009311

that is a support site by Xerox specific to VIPP. Might be able to get some help getting started there.

Good luck.